12.02.07
Canola2 Teaser …
I am so pumped for this … 10 more days!
Marcelo has also published a nice behind the scenes look at the design process for the photo viewer as well recently which looks like one of the most exciting changes.
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Canola, Internet Tablet, N-Series, 770, N800, N810, Nokia, open, podcast, Streaming, UPnP
flux said,
December 21, 2007 at 8:45 pm
maemo.org - Planet maemo said,
December 4, 2007 at 3:20 am
Luis Villa said,
December 2, 2007 at 11:01 am
Any news on if it will be open source? If it will play ogg?
Jonathan Greene said,
December 2, 2007 at 11:56 am
Not sure about Ogg or open source, but certainly extensible with Plugins…
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said,
December 2, 2007 at 12:11 pm
@Luis: by default we’ll ship with mp3 scanner, but I’m about to post the scanner code to http://garage.maemo.org/projects/lms so one can write or improve current scanners/parsers. As we’ll use mplayer or osso-media-player to play media, everything that these play will play in canola
As for open source, unfortunately we could not get the managers to release the product, but we could manage to get more and more libraries released as free software, things like lightmediascanner (lms), but we hope to release the plugin system (canola’s core)… you know, it’s not about code, it’s not about willing, it’s all about business cases that these guys have to deal with
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said,
December 2, 2007 at 12:12 pm
ah, when I talk about “we” I mean indt hackers… you might know that most are free software developer contributing to projects like gnome, enlightenment, python… so we really want it to happen, it’s like our personal goal
Luis Villa said,
December 2, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Good to hear about osso-media-player, since that has an ogg plugin. Hopefully someone will write the appropriate scanner.
On the open source front, I guess I just don’t understand the business model- you’re already giving the thing away for free, and as far as I can see that are no for-profit plugins or anything like that, so I don’t see what the business model advantage is to keeping the app closed source. I am glad to see that some of the building blocks are becoming open, though- that is a great first step.
Good luck- it is a nice app, despite my nitpicks.
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said,
December 2, 2007 at 12:22 pm
MPlayer also can play OGG, and can play to bluetooth headsets using A2DP, which is really demanded by users.
As for the business model, I’m just a developer and not really allowed to talk about that… but the business have nothing to do with end-users, but corporations willing to get it, it happens believe me
That’s why we’re trying to get our infrastructure open dual-licensed as GPL-proprietary, so all free software hackers can use, learn, distribute and we can provide what customers/companies want… but this have all the implications of dual licensing that you might know, like keeping the ownership, not taking patches from outside… but MySQL-AB and Trolltech already proved it work, but we need to be carefully right here. As for what it would help, it would help with testing, ideas, and giving the freedom to other hackers to build free products on top of that.
Luis Villa said,
December 2, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Ah, interesting. Definitely recommend dual-licensing as an approach there. Good luck with it.
Alexander Grundner said,
December 3, 2007 at 5:09 pm
I’m totally blown away. This project looks awesome! It makes me wonder how something like Ubuntu Mobile will fair with this kind of competition?
TabletBlog.com by ThoughtFix: Best Applications Get Better said,
December 3, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Jonathan Greene said,
December 4, 2007 at 12:16 am
@Alexander One key difference is that Maemo is here now and Canola will run on three devices from Nokia when released in a few days.
Alexander Grundner said,
December 4, 2007 at 12:22 am
Jonathan, I know… that’s part of the reason that makes Canola awesome. I can’t wait to see it in action. Question: Will the 770 using Canola be able to handle the same media files the N800/N810 can?
Jonathan Greene said,
December 4, 2007 at 12:25 am
Not sure … hopefully, Gustavo can chime back in. I just know they are saying it will run. My guess is that you’ll want at least the OS2007 Hacker Edition running. I have not seen anyone install OS2008 yet and don’t know whether it will be supported in any way either.
N800’s are just over 200 bucks…
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said,
December 4, 2007 at 1:19 am
Hi all,
As for Canola media types, yes it does handle the same media on every device, actually we use MPlayer for movies, so it’s well known that it plays even better on 770 than on N800 and N810. As for images, we use Evas as UI library and it has the ability to load JPEG images already doing scaling (actually it’s smart enough to choose the closer JPEG macroblock encoding, so it’s really fast and saves some memory).
As for 770 version: we have tested with Gregale and last Hacker Edition, Gregale runs great (it’s the one you see in the video by Etrunko), but Hacker edition presented weird touchscreen response on all devices we tested… it was not something related to Canola, but all apps… however since the problem is more related to thumb usage (soft touches), it makes Canola barely usable! Anyway, we plan to provide all dependencies, you’d have to install and check yourself.
Canola2 - Dogpile Web Search said,
December 23, 2007 at 11:10 pm