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]]> By: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-569 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:19:26 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-569 Hi all, As for Canola media types, yes it does handle the same media on every device, actually we use MPlayer for movies, so it's well known that it plays even better on 770 than on N800 and N810. As for images, we use Evas as UI library and it has the ability to load JPEG images already doing scaling (actually it's smart enough to choose the closer JPEG macroblock encoding, so it's really fast and saves some memory). As for 770 version: we have tested with Gregale and last Hacker Edition, Gregale runs great (it's the one you see in the video by Etrunko), but Hacker edition presented weird touchscreen response on all devices we tested... it was not something related to Canola, but all apps... however since the problem is more related to thumb usage (soft touches), it makes Canola barely usable! Anyway, we plan to provide all dependencies, you'd have to install and check yourself. Hi all,

As for Canola media types, yes it does handle the same media on every device, actually we use MPlayer for movies, so it’s well known that it plays even better on 770 than on N800 and N810. As for images, we use Evas as UI library and it has the ability to load JPEG images already doing scaling (actually it’s smart enough to choose the closer JPEG macroblock encoding, so it’s really fast and saves some memory).

As for 770 version: we have tested with Gregale and last Hacker Edition, Gregale runs great (it’s the one you see in the video by Etrunko), but Hacker edition presented weird touchscreen response on all devices we tested… it was not something related to Canola, but all apps… however since the problem is more related to thumb usage (soft touches), it makes Canola barely usable! Anyway, we plan to provide all dependencies, you’d have to install and check yourself.

]]> By: Jonathan Greene http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-568 Jonathan Greene Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:25:55 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-568 Not sure ... hopefully, Gustavo can chime back in. I just know they are saying it will run. My guess is that you'll want at least the OS2007 Hacker Edition running. I have not seen anyone install OS2008 yet and don't know whether it will be supported in any way either. N800's are just over 200 bucks... ;) Not sure … hopefully, Gustavo can chime back in. I just know they are saying it will run. My guess is that you’ll want at least the OS2007 Hacker Edition running. I have not seen anyone install OS2008 yet and don’t know whether it will be supported in any way either.

N800’s are just over 200 bucks… ;)

]]> By: Alexander Grundner http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-567 Alexander Grundner Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:22:16 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-567 Jonathan, I know... that's part of the reason that makes Canola awesome. I can't wait to see it in action. Question: Will the 770 using Canola be able to handle the same media files the N800/N810 can? Jonathan, I know… that’s part of the reason that makes Canola awesome. I can’t wait to see it in action. Question: Will the 770 using Canola be able to handle the same media files the N800/N810 can?

]]> By: Jonathan Greene http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-565 Jonathan Greene Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:16:10 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-565 @Alexander One key difference is that Maemo is here now and Canola will run on three devices from Nokia when released in a few days. @Alexander One key difference is that Maemo is here now and Canola will run on three devices from Nokia when released in a few days.

]]> By: TabletBlog.com by ThoughtFix: Best Applications Get Better http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-564 TabletBlog.com by ThoughtFix: Best Applications Get Better Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:02:15 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-564 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] all-time favorite applications are getting even better. Johnathan Greene has the scoop on maemoapps:Canola's overhaul is exceeding all expectations. I can't wait to install this - especially on an N800 with two big [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] all-time favorite applications are getting even better. Johnathan Greene has the scoop on maemoapps:Canola’s overhaul is exceeding all expectations. I can’t wait to install this – especially on an N800 with two big [...]

]]> By: Alexander Grundner http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-562 Alexander Grundner Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:09:07 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-562 I'm totally blown away. This project looks awesome! It makes me wonder how something like Ubuntu Mobile will fair with this kind of competition? I’m totally blown away. This project looks awesome! It makes me wonder how something like Ubuntu Mobile will fair with this kind of competition?

]]> By: Luis Villa http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-558 Luis Villa Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:25:08 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-558 Ah, interesting. Definitely recommend dual-licensing as an approach there. Good luck with it. Ah, interesting. Definitely recommend dual-licensing as an approach there. Good luck with it.

]]> By: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-557 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:22:58 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-557 MPlayer also can play OGG, and can play to bluetooth headsets using A2DP, which is really demanded by users. As for the business model, I'm just a developer and not really allowed to talk about that... but the business have nothing to do with end-users, but corporations willing to get it, it happens believe me :-) That's why we're trying to get our infrastructure open dual-licensed as GPL-proprietary, so all free software hackers can use, learn, distribute and we can provide what customers/companies want... but this have all the implications of dual licensing that you might know, like keeping the ownership, not taking patches from outside... but MySQL-AB and Trolltech already proved it work, but we need to be carefully right here. As for what it would help, it would help with testing, ideas, and giving the freedom to other hackers to build free products on top of that. MPlayer also can play OGG, and can play to bluetooth headsets using A2DP, which is really demanded by users.

As for the business model, I’m just a developer and not really allowed to talk about that… but the business have nothing to do with end-users, but corporations willing to get it, it happens believe me :-) That’s why we’re trying to get our infrastructure open dual-licensed as GPL-proprietary, so all free software hackers can use, learn, distribute and we can provide what customers/companies want… but this have all the implications of dual licensing that you might know, like keeping the ownership, not taking patches from outside… but MySQL-AB and Trolltech already proved it work, but we need to be carefully right here. As for what it would help, it would help with testing, ideas, and giving the freedom to other hackers to build free products on top of that.

]]> By: Luis Villa http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-556 Luis Villa Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:16:57 +0000 http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/02/canola2-teaser/#comment-556 Good to hear about osso-media-player, since that has an ogg plugin. Hopefully someone will write the appropriate scanner. On the open source front, I guess I just don't understand the business model- you're already giving the thing away for free, and as far as I can see that are no for-profit plugins or anything like that, so I don't see what the business model advantage is to keeping the app closed source. I am glad to see that some of the building blocks are becoming open, though- that is a great first step. Good luck- it is a nice app, despite my nitpicks. Good to hear about osso-media-player, since that has an ogg plugin. Hopefully someone will write the appropriate scanner.

On the open source front, I guess I just don’t understand the business model- you’re already giving the thing away for free, and as far as I can see that are no for-profit plugins or anything like that, so I don’t see what the business model advantage is to keeping the app closed source. I am glad to see that some of the building blocks are becoming open, though- that is a great first step.

Good luck- it is a nice app, despite my nitpicks.

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