12.19.07

N800 Updated to OS2008 - Where’s the stylus input?

Posted in Software Updates at 12:41 pm by Jonathan Greene

Update - I just reflashed the N800 and opted NOT to restore and the stylus keyboard popped right up. I”m not sure why this is the case, but it’s there. I’ll be restoring things incrementally to see if I can rebuild slowly. Without there being a published list of don’ts with regard to updating the firmware, it’s hard to see how others will not also make this same mistake. One of the benefits of OS2008, is a less destructive update process with better restore function — though clearly not from pre-release / beta versions.

When I was testing the N810 and OS2008, I never looked for or even wanted the stylus keyboard but as soon as I updated my N800 with the beta release it was something I immediately missed. This was amplified by the fact that the thumbboard was not always popping up on all text entry points and at times I’ve even found myself in a few dead ends … no way to enter text and no way to do anything without entering something … hard to use Google without actually entering a search!

I expected this to go away with the release version, though after updating my N800 yesterday I still have no way to enable stylus entry and I am still finding it hard to get the thumbboard to pop up all the time. I’ve reset the N800 once today to try and fix this, but this is not what I was hoping to see with the OS2008 release. As you can see in the following screen shot, I am running the latest firmware but there’s simply no option for stylus input to activate.

N800, OS2008 - No Stylus input

N800 - Latest Firmware

I know there’s also supposed to be predictive text selections when using the thumbboard, which I’ve also yet to see on the N800 … I’ll have to try a fresh flash without a restore to see if there’s something buggy from a prior version along the way, but I have to say I’m quite frustrated. I tend to message quite a bit on the tablet and need text entry to be both reliable and flexible.

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16 Comments »

  1. Aniello Del Sorbo said,

    December 19, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    Well, I know it’s not a big issue… but I would cover the MAC addresses.

  2. Jonathan Greene said,

    December 19, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    believe me I thought of that … but since this is an older device and people are already actively sharing the now old beta release of the software I just went with it. If someone wants to use my device id to download the new software cool. I did not have any way to edit the pic anyway when I was posting …

  3. timsamoff said,

    December 19, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Jonathan… By “predictive text selections” do you mean word completion? I know you already know this, but if you go to the Languages tab in the Text Entry Tools window, choose a language (or languages) and tap Settings, you’ll see the options for that.

    Sorry if I’m wrong about what you mean.

  4. John said,

    December 19, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    I believe the thumb keyboard issue hass been solved at ITT. double tap.

    http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=111164&postcount=64

  5. Jonathan Greene said,

    December 19, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    dammit - word completion was off. Now it’s on - and works.

    Stylus is still dead and I can’t get the thumb board to pop on all things which makes getting things done quite challenging.

  6. Jonathan Greene said,

    December 19, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    single, double and d-pad. none work. Double-tap is the way to get it to pop, but it does not happen all the time and when it does not work, it stops across the board on all entry fields. I’ve filed a bug …

  7. Jonathan Greene said,

    December 19, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    Just updated the post … a fresh flash, without restore has solved this input issue. Would have been nice to know in advance of course, but at least it’s there now.

  8. Aniello Del Sorbo said,

    December 20, 2007 at 4:36 am

    Which one’s the bug you’ve filed ? I want to vote it.

  9. Aniello Del Sorbo said,

    December 20, 2007 at 7:40 am

    Found it:

    #2597

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  12. dave said,

    December 20, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    hmmmm, I read this post yesterday with great interest since I’d been having odd issues myself. What caught my eye was the ‘About product’ pic; mine showed ” rather than ‘2-2007.50-2′.

    I reflashed and the version is now shown correctly, but the other odd little issues persist. I cannot get the thumb keyboard to pop up without resorting to hitting the center of the dpad. A second finger press in the text box was all that was needed in the past.

    I’ve also noticed that navigation in general seems to have deteriorated a bit. Frequently, I find that I need to reselect an item to get it to “take”. This holds true whether I’m in a local application or trying to click a link on the web.

    It’s the little things which frustrate us most.

  13. Jonathan Greene said,

    December 20, 2007 at 12:02 pm

    Did you do a restore? NOT doing that seems to be helping …

    http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/20/if-youve-been-using-the-beta-do-not-restore-from-full-backup-with-os2008/

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  15. maemo.org - Planet maemo said,

    December 20, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    links from TechnoratiThis may be coming too late for many, based on the discussions on ITT and across Jaiku, but if you ran the beta OS2008, I would strongly suggest you skip restoring a complete backup when you update.Yesterday’s postabout the missing stylus input, lack of thumbboard reliability and deactivated word complete are all functional with a fresh flash of 2008 and no restore. I attempted a restore after seeing things work (not the restore during setup) and still found

  16. DamionKutaeff said,

    March 22, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Hello everybody, my name is Damion, and I’m glad to join your conmunity,
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